17,500 at the game it was sold out and they made a memory for the city to remember forever. i'm bill hemmer, the o'reilly factor starts right now. >> bill: bill hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching the factor tonight. the talking points memo about the government protecting us from terrorism and gun crime will be in the third segment because we have an amazing breaking story tonight out of boston. and we leave the broadcast with the latest. the stunning turn of events. in a press conference held this afternoon, the fbi directly asked the public, you guys, for help in bringing the boston terrorists to justice. the bureau has identified two men. there they are. saying they are suspects in monday's bombing. the men were seen on boylston street just before the explosions. the images are clear. can you see them here. the problem is the authorities don't know who these men are.

>> today we are enlisting the public's help to identify the two suspects. after a very detailed analysis of photo, video, and other evidence, we are releasing photos of these two suspects. they are identified as suspect 1 and suspect 2. they appear to be associated. suspect 1 is wearing a dark hat. suspect 2 is wearing a white hat. suspect 2 set down a backpack at the site of the second explosion just in front of the forum restaurant. >> bill: now that restaurant ground zero for monday's tear attack. if you want to see more about the suspects, please go to fbi.gov. fbi.gov. and if you know anything, please go to boston marathon tips.fbi.gov.

>> somebody out there knows these individuals as friends, neighbors, co-workers, or family members of the suspects. though it may be difficult, the nation is counting on those with information to come forward and provide it to us. >> bill: so the fbi is very smart to use the american people as agents of investigation. but the bureau emphasizes that nobody should approach these two men. as they are considered armed and dangerous. it is just a matter of time before these guys are caught. then the fbi's mandate is to prove they are the terrorists that killed three people and injured almost 200 others on monday. but it would be very unusual and i emphasize this. very unusual for the fbi to put out pictures of anybody on television and the net if they weren't firmly convinced they had something to do with the terror attack. we hope all of you will take the time to visit the fbi's web site. look at the pictures closely. and act if you know something. we're all in this together.

innocent people were killed and maimed as you know, whoever did it must pay the the ultimate penalty which is the death penalty in our federal system. with us now, bill daily, a retired fbi agent. so, what was really surprising i don't think i have ever seen this in my 37 journalistic career. they are convicting these guys. i will tell you why. those men, their lives are irrepresent prap prabbably changed. even if they can't prove they did it. they are now branded -- one

person was named a suspect and it turned out not to be him and that person was able to get damages from all of that it is something that they are confident. highly confident and it's not just the fbi, bill, but it's going to be the u.s. attorneys who are looking at this information and saying that we also feel by you posting this information out there about these people is that you are not endangering the eventual prosecution of this case either of these people or anyone else. >> bill: here is how stunning it is. they are endangering the federal government and the state of massachusetts, the lives of these people. the lives of these suspects. are you kidding me? you know how people are. >> yep. >> bill: people are going to go to the web sites and they are going to know who these guys are. all over the world. they can't go or do anything. we hope nothing untoward happens. we want the system to work. but i think that we must emphasize this is so far out of the investigative ordinary that it's off the chart.

>> well, bill, don't forget the fbi does release photos of wanted criminals. the fbi's 10 most wanted is out there. people they want to go after. the public has been very helpful. over 30% of people found on the fbi's 10 most wanted list came from the public. i don't think we have many cases of people going after 10 most wanted individually to go harm them. >> bill: but you know, bill, this is terrorism. this is raw. this is emotional. this is, you know, three days ago. you know, the fbi's most wanted list is vetted. it's a carefully thought out process. i'm sure this was carefully thought out as well. i have never seen anything like this. you have? >> no. certainly. >> bill: unprecedented? >> unprecedented. i am confident that they are saying they are looking for these people and these are the only two people, bill, in this press conference they mentioned who are out there who they want people to look for is that they are confident that they have something else showing that they have these people in that place, putting the package or packages down and these are the people they are going

after. >> bill: now, whoever these guys are, they obviously know how to blend into a crowd. hat on backwards. backpacks, you know, just like everybody in boston. you know, right there, this, and that. these aren't amateurs. >> well, these are people probably who have learned. they have tud deed. i believe they kind of have looked to see how other crimes have been committed. and they have not only just learned that trade craft, how to build these devices but they have also learned how to blend. in you see them, they look as though they are just going to watch the marathon. they look kind of athletic kind of casual look. >> bill: right. >> big thing here we now have people out there taking pictures, the videos out there who are now going to go home and look a i think i have these guys on another picture. >> bill: i moip we do. they know what they are doing they really don't. security cameras are everywhere they obviously didn't anticipate that you can see them very very well. we appreciate you coming in on quick notice. thank you very much. next on the rundown, we

will go back up to boston to get reaction to the stunning turn of events today. that report moments away. are you still sleeping? just wanted to check and make sure that we were on schedule.

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go. >> well, the you are suggesting it's over for them? >> yeah. >> let me address that in a moment. the thing that structure me is the amount of discipline the fbi employed over the past two days. they did not speak. they did not address the public. you imagine the amount of pressure and then produce something. and they did tonight. and i think it's significant, also. now, the discipline on behalf the fbi is one thing. but remember what they said in this press conference earlier tonight. the fbi agent in charge said that they have photographic evidence of suspect number 2. that's the individual wearing the white hat leaving the second bomb on boylston street, 755 boylston street in front of the forum restaurant. that is a strong indictment, based on the evidence that they believe they have. >> bill: absolutely. >> i think it's remarkable they held back as long as they did. >> bill: well, i'm not sure about that i don't want to disagree with you, hemmer because you are doing us a big problem. >> no problem.

>> bill: have you been working since like 3:00 in the morning. before they went up to the press conference today, we know this for a fact. everybody was in the room. i mean, i believe probably went up to the president. you had attorney general holder in washington. look, this is what we have. because they didn't tell us all they had on the guys. they have a lot of other stuff on them. >> bill: no question about that. >> bill: should we now put them out in front of the world for the sake of getting them? do he we have enough to justify that and the answer was obviously yes, we have enough. >> i understand the caution you are walking with there. i was in atlanta in the olympic park in 1996. and i saw what happened to the life of richard jewell when his life was literally carried out of his apartment building in a box. and that man was never the same again i clearly

understand what you are saying there. watching what the fbi said tonight they did not want to make a mistake here. >> bill: that's why they didn't rush it. >> bill: they are a long way away from a conviction. i want to bring you back to the comment the man made when he said we have evidence of suspect number 2 leaving bomb number 2 at the scene that is strong, strong language. >> bill: they didn't give out all the evidence and they shouldn't have. even though the mistake was made in atlanta and mr. giuliani as you joule as you rightly pointed out his life was impacted forever. we have to cooperate in helping them, that's why we want everybody to go to the web sites and if you know anything obviously call is it is a bold move. have you ever seen anything like this? >> you might be right about

that hang on to that. they can't solve this case without the public's health. i know that guy he lives down the street with me. i went he to high school with that kid. his name is so and so and he grew up in this town and this is where you can find him and this is what his father does for a living. that's the kind of appeal that they have gone to. this started on tuesday when there were repeated public appeals to come forward with any information that you have. this case does not get solved unless somebody comes up and says, hey, man, i know that guy, and i know where he lives and i have got his cell phone number and i have got his email address and here is where you find him. that's the point where we are in the story. now, how they do it, i do not know. they shut down logan on monday afternoon thinking these guys would fly out of here. maybe they have. because clearly they are not in custody now. >> bill: there is nowhere to run now, bill. not with the internet and not with 24 hour cable all over the world. there is nowhere for these guys to run. they are going to get them. >> bill: with the point

about the internet and social media you know, for 36 hours the video and the pictures that have been surfacing had nothing to do with these two guys isn't that remarkable now? because of all these false reports on these web sites and newspapers and indeed you are right about that. so this was. >> bill: this was real. >> bill: i think for a lot of people watching this story in boston who are here, you know, on behalf of the media, i venture to guess it surprised a lot of people when those two images came up. >> bill: can the government really protect us from terrorists? very controversial talking points memo straight ahead. so now i can help make this a great block party. ♪ [ male announce ] advair is clinically proven to help significantly improve lung function. unlike most copd medications, advair contains both an anti-inflammatory and a long-acting bronchodilator working together

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>> bill: in the impacts segment tonight, county government really protect

us from violence. that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. president obama gave a rousing speech in boston today saying that the city would never give into violence and the nation will never be defeated by terrorists. this time next year on the third monday in april, the world will return to this great american city to run harder than ever and cheer even louder for that 118th boston marathon fill bill nice job with that speech. yesterday the president's tone was very different. he was angry about losing the gun control legislation in the senate. as you may know that body failed to pass background checks. five democrats even voted against the new law. all of them from progun states why did the background checks fail. sane people stopped from buying guns. every sane person knows

that checks will not keep guns out of the bad people. they will buy weapons illegally. if the president were really serious about protecting malcolm jenkins from gun violence he would federalize gun crimes and attach a criminal justice component to the gun check legislation. here is what mr. obama should do. registering firearms should be in this country. use the gun in the commission of a crime, 10 years. law abiding people with guns are not the problem. so let's give the police a big advantage. if the cops even find unregistered gun by a stop and frisk, something like that. it's a felony. that would take gun criminals off the streets fast obviously drastically cut gun violence. president obama's gun legislation is targeted, pardon the pun at law abiding people. not criminals. and that's the reason.

he isn't getting anywhere. some stats to back my opinion up. 2011 the fbi reports nearly 8600 people were killed with firearms in the u.s.a. that's down 10% from 2002. to provide perspective, more than 32,000 people were killed in auto accidents. more perspective. no law is going to stop crazy people from committing mass murder. even mr. obama admits that. and finally a word about terrorism. since the attack on 9/11, 34 people have been killed by terrorists in the u.s.a. 34. that includes the fort hood shootings and the beltway sniper back in 2002. so, authorities have doing a darn good job at protecting us and we should all be grateful. bottom line, the government can protect us from harm somewhat. if it acts in a smart and tough way. no system is perfect. boston proves that. but if we want to cut violence, whether crime or

terrorism, we have to put theory aside and find out what really works. and that's the memo, now for the top story tonight. reaction with us the co-host of the five. bob beckel. you get my point, i'm sure, a brilliant man like yourself about why this legislation is not getting anywhere because it's targeted as as i said at law abiding people not the criminals. first of all i like your idea. i think it's a good idea about the federal registration. this bill is startinged. nobody commits a crime with a gun does not get a gun that was not bought legally. that's the whole problem. we wanted to put checks people who buy things at gun shows, where in virginia next to my state can you go and buy seven of them. these guys said the d.c. buy seven, no checks, brings them back and sells them on the streets to criminals. every single gun bought legally to begin with. >> bill: i hate to do this beckel because you know i'm your pal, right? i hate to burst your bubble. >> you are not going to. >> bill: yeah i will. there is more than 100 million guns right now on the streets. >> correct.

>> bill: any kind of registration or anything like that is a moot point because with those 100 million the criminals can start a big industry and they can bring them in through mexico and bring them in through canada. let's be real. if you attach my component as you said you agree with, the federalizing of the gun crimes. and if you are going to force law abiding people and many of them don't want to because they feel once the government gets that data then the government is event actually going to take their guns away. that's the paranoia that's running in the right wing surface some places. i understand that paranoia. why trust the federal government. if you do the criminal component there is a greater good involved most gun owners would say okay i don't really like the registration, if you are going to put away the bad guys, i will support it? >> are you kidding me in the nra would go up the wall. those thugs over there don't know -- any single gun legislation. >> bill: if the nra would say i don't support that, then they would lose all their power in this country. >> first of all, they

are -- >> bill: that's what's going to happen. >> these democrats that jumped ship was a cowardly act in the face of nra that's not nearly as powerful as they think they are. can you talk about all you want of 100 million guns here and bring them in through canada. every single gun used in a crime in this country was bought legally. >> bill: i just punched the big. >> you didn't punch at all. tell me how you punched it. >> bill: i will tell you again but i don't want to belabor it. >> if you have gun registration immediately a secondary gun market will arise in the country with guns coming. in that doesn't matter. they will be sold illegally. you can't put 'the genie back in the bottle to use a cliche. all right. you get it, you just don't want to get it. >> no, i don't get it here is al sharpton. react to al. you al, is he a friend. >> yeah. he is a friend. >> with all of these threats, had all of these actual attacks three people dead in boston, one an child, e we even debating background

checks in the senate? i mean, how can we have lamh upheaval, such bed and people don't even want to check to ho we allow to have deadly weapons? something don't make sense to me. >> bill: it's nice the reverend has a band in his radio studio. i like that. this is so ridiculous. >> it's not ridiculous at all. >> bill: equating the boston bombing with background checks? >> what is your problem with background checks. >> bill: i don't have any problem with it. >> why don't you let it happen at gun shows? guns bought legally are used in crimes. >> bill: because it's useless. >> it's not useless. >> i don't want. >> bill: i don't want to bebait it? >> you i won the debate. they bring them to d.c. and used in crime. what does it take for you to understand that? >> bill: and i told threw is 100 million on the street already. >> they are not on the street they are at people's houses. >> bill: wherever they are. al sharpton esquatting gun

legislation with the bombing in boston. does that make any sense to you. >> i don't think it makes any sense to eaquatic the bombing in equate the bombing in boston. keep their mouth shut until these people get buried. >> bill: i don't understand sometimes. this is a rhetorical question. you don't have to answer it you put forth your point of view about virginia, right? we all heard it. i then knocked it down by saying. >> no you didn't. >> bill: even if you start registration today the secondary gun market is so vast and accessible that it doesn't make any difference and then you just totally blow that off as some kind of fantasy. >> where is the secondary gun market? what are you talking about? guns out there sowned by citizens who generally are people who abide by the law. what's going to happen? criminals are going to go steal them and knock on doors and buy them? >> bill: secondary gun market will come through canada and mexico. >> now you are down to canada and mexico which i said four times. >> you dropped 100 million off of that go ahead.

>> 100 million component of those will find their way into the marketplace for money. >> much fewer than they're right now for gun shows. watch them they buy guns and use them illegally. >> bill: bob beckel, everybody. there he is. >> pleasure. >> bill: president obama under pressure because of the boston terrorism and the gun situation. ed henry tell us how he is handling the pressure. later, megyn kelly in the middle of a media mess yesterday on the boston terrorism story. mismegyn will be here upcoming. the humble back seat. we believe it can be the most valuable real estate on earth. ♪ that's why we designed our newest subaru from the back seat forward. introducing the all-new, completely restyled subaru forester. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru.

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>> bill: personal story segment tonight, as we told you in the talking points memo, president obama delivered a very emotional and effective speech today in boston. but there is no question he is under heavy pressure on a number of fronts. joining us now from washington chief white house correspondent ed henry. take the gun failure in the senate yesterday. do you think the president knew he was going to lose going in. >> yes he did. they did the vote counts i am told by advisors they knew beforehand they weren't going to reach the 60 votes. the president was resigned to defeat on that. he is he frustrated in part because he sees an issue that's got 90% support in fox news polls and elsewhere in terms of the background checks that we are talking about and it's not going anywhere fast. and frankly, is he running out of time before is he a lame duck. if he doesn't get it done now he is not going to get it done. >> bill: he is not going to get it done. there isn't a reason to persuade people who are very strongly i don't want any regulations on firearms if he did what i told him to do with all due humility

put an enforcement component so it all doesn't fall a on the law abiding citizen, which is how it is perceived now, he would get it through. but, you know, these kinds of things don't even occur to the president. you know. go ahead. >> but you even said yourself at the top of the talking points memo. i listened closely and you said it makes perfect sense to make sure that people who are mentally ill or who are criminals do not get guns. the president is trying to make the point start there and then move towards going after the criminals like you said. >> bill: you have got to do it both. you can't start there because of the paranoia among some conservative americans and gun owners that this is a ruiz ruse to get administration to come in and take my stuff. he president obama is not going to dispel it and you are not going to and i am not going to. >> when you said gun registry would work. how with you going to get it through the senate. >> bill: greater good. if you tie in a registration process which i don't think is a wrong thing to do that do you that even if you don't like

it because you are giving police incentive to really crack down on the villains, the stop and frisk you take them off that's five years then the bad guys aren't going to carry and gun violence will drop. look, if you go to sing apoor, that's how they control it i know what i'm talking about. i know the societies that control gun violence and i know how they do it. president obama is clueless. he basically puts all the pressure on the law abiding people and law abiding people know it he doesn't have a solution to gun violence in his own town. they have the strictest handgun laws in the country and who is getting mowed down? 30, 40 people every weekend. everybody knows it's a phony issue. >> they made a calculation in the white house that the background checks what the popular and most easiest thing. >> bill: doesn't work. it's not going to stop it? >> maybe it was a mistake if they had gone for bigger bill more come prehenszive maybe they would have convinced more people on the hill this is a big bold thing that's going to get actually put a dent in the problem. i think the counters inside the white house would be when you talk to his top aides if he can't even get this thing that's got 90%.

>> bill: is he going to get nothing because people don't trust him on the issue. all right? that's -- you know, they say, look, if your gun control so good, why is this happening in chicago? and he has got no answer. all right? they don't trust him on the issue. and that's why he is getting nowhere. it's not the nra and their money and all of this. yeah, the politicians are craving and cowardly as beckel said. some of them are give people incentive to get behind you, mr. president. nobody believes gun registration is going to save people, kids in newtown. it's not going to do it. >> when you had max baucus democratic senator in swing state up for ere-election why did you vote no one word montana. some of these democrats on the fence people like you have got on the screen right now, they basically say, back home in montana, it's not going to fly. and so right now the president is stuck because he has got a wall of republican opposition but he has also got a handful of democrats. >> bill: is he not getting anywhere on anything. that's that.

severing going to stay status quo. on the terrorism front when mr. obama delivers a speech in boston today. that speech is written for him, correct? >> it is. his aides say on air force one as he always does, he starts tinkering with it and tries to get it in his own voice. i think you heard in an important clip there where he got the audience behind him. look, any president's situation like this can rise to the occasion, it's not shocking that when there is something like this he is going to get public support for it but not every president can sort of hit that high note. i think today as you noted he sort of captured the moment. but, more importantly, in the days ahead is the memorial service is just the beginning. what's going to happen with this fbi investigation? he keeps saying justice will be served. >> bill: he is going to have to because of the benghazi fiasco, they still haven't solved that. who killed our american ambassador. >> former senator kerry, now secretary of state was on the hill this week saying no, no, we have made a the love progress. the fbi has a lot of leads. look, it's seven months later and nobody has been brought to justice there it's not about benghazi vs.

boston in terms of the fact. two different terror attacks. the president made a lot of promises about benghazi. his words are going to be held accountable. same here with boston. >> let's hope for everybody's sake they catch these villains in boston. we appreciate you coming on. in plenty more aas the factor moves along this evening. incredible stories of courage in that texas fertilizer plant catastrophe. talk to two heros who saved lives. megyn kelly in the middle of intense media situation yesterday on live tv. she will tell us what happened there. we hope you stay tuned to those reports. ♪ this is the 2013 lexus es and the first-ever es hybrid. this is the pursuit of perfection. by the armful? by the barrelful? e carful? how about...by the bowlful? campbell's soups give you nutrition, energy, and can help you keep a healthy weight. campbell's.

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>> bill: thanks for staying with us, i'm bill o'reilly in the kelly file segment tonight. there i was watching miss cnn and fox news reported there had been arrest in boston terror attack. that turned out to be false. i actually for the first time in my life felt sorry for you. you see -- these things right here, can you see that with the audience? these are in our ears when we are doing live tv. all right? these are attached to pinheads who are in another room who are telling you things, correct? yes. except for the pinhead part. >> bill: right. and you have to really, you can't say well how do you know you? can't have a conversation with them while you are talking to the audience. this is going on

simultaneously, all right? so yesterday you are sitting there and all of this is rolling in. you are on for like five hours. >> that's right. >> bill: it's all rolling in. did you have any trepidation we may be getting jobbed here? >> yes. we are on the air. we start getting reports because we can see what other news organizations are reporting and you get it on the wires too that we follow on our computer. and so you can see, okay, the globe is reporting that they have an arrest. >> bill: the "boston globe"? >> yeah. a.p. is reporting they have the guy in custody and is he heading to the federal courthouse. cnn is reporting they have an arrest. >> bill: cnn, you couldn't watch it but i was watching at the same time they actually had tried and convicted the guy. that's how far cnn went. they were all over the place. >> they said three federal law enforcement sources were telling them an arrest had been made. of course, we are talking internally when we can during the commercial breaks i'm saying do we have this? can we match this? is it true? is it not true? we didn't have confirmation. so i was saying to the viewers, look, other news outlets are making these reports, we don't have it

yet. weaver going to try to be careful and then right before 2:00, i was told we have it. our.come property has spoke to two law enforcement officers who confirm there has been an arrest. i come on the air and i tell the viewers i look it's a fluid situation, please bear with me. this is what we are being told right now. that there has been an arrest. you know, these situations are never ideal. you really want to have it cold. >> bill: you want to see the guy in cuffs for the perp walk. >> within 10 minutes we saw that other news outlets were reporting affirmatively no arrests had been made. >> cbs news. >> and nbc news. >> bill: no, no, no, that's not true. i was watching the other stupid nbc arm m bsz. >> no, no. pete williams who is the doj reporter over there. >> bill: that's the network. but their other arm was conflicting with them. cbs had it right. i'm not giving anybody else any credit. >> i jumped on the air as

soon as i seen the conflicting reports which is 10 minutes after we had said we are being told by the.com property that the law enforcement officers say arrest. here is the situation. now there is conflicting reports now the >> bill: people i think people understand. >> people were very standing. >> you didn't get nasty emails did you. >> most part people said thank you for being transparent. >> it's cable news. part of the reason why people tune in they can be part of the process. you hold sort of the curtain open and let them see it. i was very honest about this is what we are being told. >> bill: this is not the first thing this has happened. all the time on the breaks information. you get erroneous information. >> it is strange. i'm puzzled i have to be honest that there are so many different law enforcement officers out there telling the a.p. something, our .com property something. >> they hear it that's how it goes. >> very strange to have that many top federal law enforcement officers misleading the media. >> bill: once the rumor starts it gets flies through and that's the way it goes. >> yeah.

so it's unfortunate. >> in texas there was an assistant d.a., a district attorney and his wife all murdered. yesterday they got the guy. tell me about what happened there. >> the guy and the gal. i mean, this case is so crazy. originally there were reports that maybe it was a white supremacist group was that lined it because they were looking at the two male prosecutors saying who did they prosecute together? >> bill: these are the two that had been arrested. >> this guy on the left is a former justice of the peace in texas and that's his wife on the right. they're looking who did the two prosecutors go after who might have a grudge. first it was focused on the are aian brotherhood. it turns out that guy how saw on screen left is a justice of the peace who they went after, this prosecutor and his assistant d.a. for allegedly stealing three computers from the courthouse that he worked at worth a total of 1500 bucks. it's so sad. this d.a., his wife, and the assistant d.a. >> bill: did this guy get convicted that. >> yes. he got convicted and he lost his justice of the peace role.

>> bill: he got probation. >> he claims that was unfair. he got probation that was it he lost his justice of the peace role and loses law license. >> bill: goes back and murders three people. >> the confessed get away driver and said he did all three murders there are reports that the d.a. who was murdered after the daa was murdered first and the d.a. was reportedly saying i know it's this guy this justice of the peace we went after because he doesn't have it all there. he started carrying a weapon with him. he got murdered in the home with his wife there now according to the former justice of the peace with his wife. they got the justice of the department. against him. which i believe it's true. would you like to make another bet on this case, kelly since you owe me? >> can't you pay for your own meals? no i'm stacking them up. >> everybody that comes on here has to buy you a meal?

>> bill: that's right. this is the benefit of being right every time. >> i hear you make out pretty well. >> bill: trying to deflect the issue away from you not buying the dinner yet. i see. kelly is pretty clever. >> oh, my lord, the number of meals he is trying to get off of me. >> bill: talk about transparency. >> i have got to go eat with my husband. >> bill: there you go. a fertilizer deck explodes in texas. scores have been hurt. death toll mounting. we will take you down there in just a few moments. this is for real this time. step seven point two one two. rify and lock. command is locked. five seconds. three, two, one. standing by for capture. the most innovative software on the planet... dragon is captured. is connecting today's leading companies to places beyond it. siemens. answers.

>> bill: back of the book segment tonight, accidental terror in texas. last night fertilizer plant in the town of west, texas north of waco exploded. scores were hurt and mounting. [explosion]

>> are you safe? >> yes. >> are you okay? >> i can't hear. >> cover your ears. >> i can't hear. please, get out of here. >> oh my god. >> bill: authorities believe that was an accident but they are investigating all angles. joining us now from west, texas, sheriff parnell mcnamara. on the phone wesley who witnessed the devastation and helped the injured. you took three people to the hospital. tell us how that happened. >> well, i was working just right down the road from the explosion that happened. and at the time i didn't really realize what was going on. i didn't feel -- i was left -- actually probably a mile, mile and a half away. and i didn't actually feel or hear the explosion. i saw a big mushroom cloud and realized something serious was going on. my mother actually called me and told me a cousin of mine her house was completely leveled. so i just figured it was a propane leak in the house or something. and me and my mom went to go to my cousin's house to

recover some photos and stuff because we had bad weather coming. in and that's whenever i realized it was a whole lot worse than i anticipated. i met up with a sheriff and asked him if he needed help. i told him that i was, you know, i knew cpr and first aid. he sent me immediately to the community center. when i got to the community center, it was like a war zone. there were people hurt. a lot of people didn't know what to do. i offered my vehicle to take people to the hospital. i loaded up three individuals, all three of them were from the nursing home. the first individual i took was -- had a pretty serious head injury. i took him to hillcrest and i came back and loaded up another lady and took her to providence and took her person to hillcrest. >> bill: very admirable for a citizen like you to do that and to get those people out of there when resources in a small rural area like that is not -- it's not like boston.

sheriff, let's go over to you. i understand some of the fatalities were first responders who went in to fight the fire at the plant; is that correct? >> that's what we believe at this time, bill. >> have you any information about how many firefighters were impacted by this, either hurt or dead? >> we haven't gotten any exact numbers as of yesterday. there is fire and rescue teams right now in the area that are trying to determine you know this thing. >> bill: when we see the pictures up here in new york, it looks like this is syria. it is like a bombed out war zone. what could cause that kind of damage? what we had here was an extremely large explosion at a fertilizer plant and the damage it does look like a war zone. i keep hearing that description over and over

and that's about the best way to describe it. building that are leveled. houses are damaged, blown off the foundation. missing roofs. all missing windows and doors snarsz 6 or 8 blocks away. it was an he extremely powerful explosion. a lot of devastation. >> bill: fertilizer used in the oklahoma city bomb. it's so combustible it does act as a literal bomb and that's what happened there. last question we hear that there were some looting incidents down there, sheriff, is that true? we heard there was some spotted looting so we addressed that very quickly and stopped that all right sheriff, we appreciate you coming on. thank you very much. factor tip of the day comes to us from boston. you are going to like this. i promise. the tip moments away. [ male announcer ] this is kevin.

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